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j_hallgren



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:17 am    Post subject: Is this product appropriate for my situation?( Newbie ) Reply with quote
Hi!

Found this site somehow...looked at most pages...including the demo...looks nice!

I am quite new to web design but have created one including a Perl guestbook that I reworked...

I have built a simple web site (menu + 6 or pages) using a semi-private hosting service that runs Apache on Linux..PHP is said to be available..they provide me with Webalizer stats which don't quite do what I need...I want to better track users, such as where they go..and for how long...I can add tracking code to my webpages as needed..

Would this software be a suitable package to use for this? As it kinda appears to be intended for the hosting service and not the actual site such as I have...true/false?
But some of my users do not have JavaScript enabled.
Would this be an issue?

Thank you for any input!
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sdjl
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It sounds like it would work for you, yes.
Although it is intended to set up a service to provide to many people, a lot of people generally use it for personal site/s.

Those users who have Javascript disabled will still call the script, just via the image tag instead.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very Happy Thanks for your reply! I very much appreciate the fact that this software has this active forum!

I have two followup queries:
1) Are there any modules that do NOT need to be installed when running a single user? If so, is there a list somewhere? And is there a Admin style login that I would thus use that differs from "user" login? I have reviewed docs, but have not read or understood 100% of it...

2) I have looked at modules...saw a number of foreign language ones...so similar question for that..What can I remove to run English only?
As the less I have to deal with storing, the better.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Its simpler just to install the script as it is when you download it.
There are no modules as such with this script, it's one bulk thing which has modifications made by it's users.

There is no seperate login for an admin user, no. You will need to make sure you password protect your admin directory upon installation.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have seen various references to password protecting admin dir...could you explain just who that protects me from? Others on same host? General public on Net? Etc? I'm quite new at this..

I have queried my host admin...they do not seem to use the .htaccess type protection...said to use CHMOD instead...can you point me to any clues on how this would be done and what effect it would have on me?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
you need to protect it from hackers, whether they are in the public or on your machine doesn't matter Smile

do you have cpanel? that would be the easiest way to protect the directory, if you do ahve cpanel just login and go to "password protect directories" and there choose the admin directory Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Did I understand correctly? I only need to worry about this IF I have this producy and an admin dir?
Presently, all i have at site is HTML files and a CGI script...to modify them I have to sign on using SSH or via SFTP..the host runs Linux/Apache
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
you should have it protected for whatever reason you use it, did you try going through cpanel?

if you have cpanel you can access it via

www.domainname.com/cpanel
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cpanel is not available on my host...looked at supplier site for it...saw that it is not free...thus it will never be on my host...we run it as co-op...any other ideas?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
There are plenty of free scripts available to create the correct files to password protect your directories for you.
Look for .htacces or .htpasswd protection scripts.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
yeah that's the only other way then

http://www.thepcmanwebsite.com/password_protection.shtml

that's weird that you don't have a control panel, how do you administer emails etc? who is your host?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lionel, you can spec servers with no control panel software.
You just have to use the programs that come with linux and do everything manually. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hehe, yeah i know but i haven't come across many shared hosts not offering a cp, which is what surprised me. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
FYI: The host I use is a small co-op of about 35 Unix/Linux folks who share a server...I was allowed in even though I am a Windows guy...So thus my knowledge of what/how to do is limited...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ahh , that makes sense now then.

You should be able to use htaccess no problem Smile
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